North West 2010 under RTU



This is an attempt to work out how the election results would have looked in 2010 under the Regional Top-Up system for the North West. There are 75 MPs in the North West. Under Regional Top-Up, 59 of them would be Constituency MPs and 16 would be Regional MPs.

It is worth remembering that the smaller parties may not have stood in every seat, so their total vote is less than it would have been under Regional Top-Up. RTU allows parties to appear on every ballot in a region, even if there is no local candidate, as long as the party has candidates in at least 1/3 of the seats. Hence the electorate would have a much more even choice across every region.

This is how the North West looked after the 2010 election:

Party Current MPs Total votes Percentage MPs under PR
Labour 47 1,292,978 39.5 30
Conservative 22 1,038,967 31.7 24
Lib Dem 6 707,770 21.6 17
UKIP 0 103,782 3.2 2
BNP 0 70,032 2.1 2
Green 0 17,046 0.5 0

The above table includes a column for how the number of MPs should look (roughly) under a directly proportional system. The Lib Dems are, once again, eleven MPs short of what their vote deserves, while Labour are massively over represented. UKIP and the BNP deserved at least an MP each.

Assumptions


Let’s assume that, after the number of constituencies has been reduced in the North West from 75 to 59, the MPs elected under FPTP are still returned in proportion to the 2010 result. That will give us 37 Labour, 17 Conservative and 5 Lib Dem MPs. The remaining 16 will be Regional MPs (RMPs).

Step 1: Add up the votes for each party


We have already done this at the top of this page; the table includes the total votes across the North West for each of the major parties.

Step 2: Create Party Lists


If this were for real we would look at all of the candidates for each party across the North West region, and list them in order of the percentage of the vote they received (grouped by party), removing those who were successfully elected. Each party should end up with a list of candidates in order of public popularity.

For example, the UKIP list would look like this (for the top five):

Name Percentage Constituency
Stephen Rush 6.7 Ribble Valley
Paul Nuttall 6.1 Bootle
Alan Freeman 5.7 Wigan
William Robinson 5.5 Denton & Reddish
John Whittaker 5.1 Hazel Grove

Step 3: Calculate the minimum percentage for an elected MP


Under a directly proportional system in the North West, we can calculate the percentage of the vote needed to get an MP elected: 100%/75MPs = 1.34% per MP.

The Green Party, and every other party with a smaller fraction of the vote, is below the 1.34% minimum threshold for an MP in the North West. We can now discount all of those parties from the following calculations.

Step 4: Assign the Regional seats


We use the d’Hondt system to distribute the 16 Regional MP seats. The maths gets a little awkward to follow here, so if you aren’t interested, skip to the last couple of lines of the table below to see how the seats are distributed proportionally.

Note that we use the number of seats won under FPTP as the starting number of seats for each party. This requires an initial step to convert the total votes into the equivalent tally as if the first 59 seats had been distributed under the d’Hondt formula. For example, the Conservatives’ 1,038,967 votes are divided by 1 + number of seats (17), giving 1,038,967/18 = 57,720.

The numbers in red indicate which party gains the seat. The number in brackets indicates the number of seats held at each stage of the calculation.

Labour (37) Conservative (17) Lib Dem (5) UKIP (0) BNP (0)
Total Votes: 1,292,978 1,038,967 707,770 103,782 70,032
Initial Step: 34,026 57,720 117,962 103,782 70,032
Seat 1 34,026 57,720 101,110 (6) 103,782 70,032
Seat 2 34,026 57,720 101,110 51,981 (1) 70,032
Seat 3 34,026 57,720 101,110 51,981 35,016 (1)
Seat 4 34,026 57,720 88,471 (7) 51,981 35,016
Seat 5 34,026 57,720 78,641 (8) 51,981 35,016
Seat 6 34,026 57,720 70,777 (9) 51,981 35,016
Seat 7 34,026 57,720 64,343 (10) 51,981 35,016
Seat 8 34,026 57,720 58,981 (11) 51,981 35,016
Seat 9 34,026 57,720 54,444 (12) 51,981 35,016
Seat 10 34,026 54,682 (18) 54,444 51,981 35,016
Seat 11 34,026 51,948 (19) 54,444 51,981 35,016
Seat 12 34,026 51,948 50,555 (13) 51,981 35,016
Seat 13 34,026 51,948 50,555 34,594 (2) 35,016
Seat 14 34,026 49,475 (20) 50,555 34,594 35,016
Seat 15 34,026 49,475 47,185 (14) 34,594 35,016
Seat 16 34,026 47,226 (21) 47,185 34,594 35,016
Regional MPs: 0 4 9 2 1
Total MPs: 37 21 14 2 1

This gives us a result closer to the numbers under a direct Proportional Representation scheme. Both of the smaller parties were given the MPs that they deserved, and the Lib Dems recouped most of their missing seats.

  1. #1 by Steve Barker on May 23rd, 2010

    “The Green Party, and every other party with a smaller fraction of the vote, is below the 1.34% minimum threshold for an MP in the North West. We can now discount all of those parties from the following calculations.”

    If Greens, Liberals, etc. knew the threshold was 1.34%, and not a clear local majority, there would be a lot less tactical voting!

  2. #2 by Anthony Butcher on May 23rd, 2010

    Absolutely. Not only that, but due to the Small Parties Tax (aka the deposit) amongst other factors, none of the smaller parties managed a full slate of candidates. Had they been on the ballot in every constituency, and people were given a free vote, then yes, the smaller parties would take a considerably higher percentage of the vote.

  3. #3 by Scott Wright on May 23rd, 2010

    Certainly behaviour would change with a new system in place. We only have to look at UKIP, a favourite example for those showing how unfair the system is. 2.5 million vote in 2009 EU elections under PR, under 1 million in 2010 under FPTP. I would be interested in seeing further results as so far I can only see 504 seats out of 650 in the 2010 results examples.

  4. #4 by Anthony Butcher on May 24th, 2010

    Don’t forget that half the number of people voted in 2009 compared to 2010, so if the same proportions were maintained, UKIP potentially could have 5 million votes. Obviously UKIP is very much on its pet subject in the EU elections, so it isn’t an entirely fair comparison :)

    I am working on the remaining regions, but each one takes a bit of time to do.

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